Well I agree, but the bros don't see this future. They see "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress", or other Heinlein novel of space pioneers, where only luxuries need to be imported, the Moon (Mars, Ganymede) farming pioneers are utterly free, indeed have no government, much less policing. "Harsh Mistress" opens on a Moon with no effective government. But! It is growing, extending tunnels every day, adding crops, having babies, and exporting enough food to Earth to feed 'millions of starving Hindus'.
In short, the book opens with the Libertarian belief that government isn't actually needed, is simply parasitic...that's already proven. Indeed, the book is about them forming a government, which bums out the narrator, he considers leaving for the asteroids to find the Wild West again.
So if the Moon needs no government, it definitely needs no pee-database.
The Wild West (of fictional existence to start with) is what they want. All that fiction presumes that Earth is Old Europe, and Space is America, specifically the West after about 1800 - a place to be free of regulations and bureaucracy.
You couldn't be stabbing them in the very heart more cruelly, to point out it would be a life embedded in a hypersurveilled bureaucracy of a rule for everything. Which is why you must keep it up!
The Moon is a Harsh Mistress is very Foucault - it is literally a prison colony, and the Loonies impose a conformity to their mores by throwing those that offend out of the airlock. Stu LaJoie is almost spaced for violating consent.
They are monitored by the computer system that becomes sentient and joins the rebels, and then is used as a tool of the state, making a synthetic deep fake leader, and using its control of the plumbing and air to harass and kill the Warden and the police.
The Malthusian backdrop and reinvented Wild West with no genocide needed are there too, but you can read more than one message from the book.
This articulates the reason I’ve enjoyed The Expanse so much. It’s the first sf universe that made the necessary « servant class » such an integral part of the world building.
Well I agree, but the bros don't see this future. They see "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress", or other Heinlein novel of space pioneers, where only luxuries need to be imported, the Moon (Mars, Ganymede) farming pioneers are utterly free, indeed have no government, much less policing. "Harsh Mistress" opens on a Moon with no effective government. But! It is growing, extending tunnels every day, adding crops, having babies, and exporting enough food to Earth to feed 'millions of starving Hindus'.
In short, the book opens with the Libertarian belief that government isn't actually needed, is simply parasitic...that's already proven. Indeed, the book is about them forming a government, which bums out the narrator, he considers leaving for the asteroids to find the Wild West again.
So if the Moon needs no government, it definitely needs no pee-database.
The Wild West (of fictional existence to start with) is what they want. All that fiction presumes that Earth is Old Europe, and Space is America, specifically the West after about 1800 - a place to be free of regulations and bureaucracy.
You couldn't be stabbing them in the very heart more cruelly, to point out it would be a life embedded in a hypersurveilled bureaucracy of a rule for everything. Which is why you must keep it up!
Ahahahha yes and let me tell you, it does not go over very well with them
I love it when we can lean on hard sciences and soft sciences alike to shoot down the shoddy ideas of Libertarian space bros.
The Moon is a Harsh Mistress is very Foucault - it is literally a prison colony, and the Loonies impose a conformity to their mores by throwing those that offend out of the airlock. Stu LaJoie is almost spaced for violating consent.
They are monitored by the computer system that becomes sentient and joins the rebels, and then is used as a tool of the state, making a synthetic deep fake leader, and using its control of the plumbing and air to harass and kill the Warden and the police.
The Malthusian backdrop and reinvented Wild West with no genocide needed are there too, but you can read more than one message from the book.
This articulates the reason I’ve enjoyed The Expanse so much. It’s the first sf universe that made the necessary « servant class » such an integral part of the world building.